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Re: Proposed training event (with bonus cryptic ending)

mmmeenehan@...
 

In a message dated Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:12:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, djon@... writes:

Who: Robert Turbyfill, former national coach and national
team member.
Don't forget - he was former US M21- Champ!!


Proposed training event (with bonus cryptic ending)

Jon <djon@...>
 

Dear QOCer,

What: Training for semi advanced to advanced orienteerers; some classroom learning along with training in the woods.

Where: Patricia and Jesse's house in Kensington, MD and in the woods, location to be determined.

Who: Robert Turbyfill, former national coach and national team member.

When: Mid to late November- Probably involving two weekends.

Why: To learn more about orienteering.

Cost: Minimal- enough to cover handouts and maps.

Would you be interested if this course was offered? If so, please email Patricia Zerfas at zerfas@...

Please no prisoners, no tourist, just students.


Missing bulletin board

Jon <djon@...>
 

The bulletin board that usually travels with the Va meet-kit is
missing. If you know its whereabouts, please contact Van Anthony at
(703) 931-4808 or vananthony@....

Thanks.

Van


Wheaton this Sunday

Jon <djon@...>
 

QOC's next event will be held this Sunday, September 22, 2002 with registration from noon to 2 pm at Wheaton Regional Park, MD.

The following courses will be offered:

Colour Length(km) # of controls Difficulty

White 2.0 9 Beginner
Yellow 3.1 11 Advanced Beginner
Orange 3.9 11 Intermediate
Brown 3.8 10 Advanced
Green 5.5 14 Advanced
Red 6.7 19 Advanced
Blue 7.9 21 Advanced

The colours to be offered are written in stone. The distances and number of controls are still subject to change.

Directions: From I-495 exit 31, take Georgia Ave north about 3 miles to Shorefield Road. Right onto Shorefield Road, turn right immediately once inside park.


Re: QOC - group update, the second, and other matters

tstrat <tstrat@...>
 

Jon,

Needless to say this list will not be very useful if it only reaches 12
people routinely.

Why don't you make receipt of all emails the default for everybody?

Those that don't like it, can change to daily digest mode or announcements
only; or they can set up a rule to divert all msgs from the list to a
special folder (that's what I do); or they can opt out entirely.

My vision for this list is a forum for a free-wheeling discussion and
information dissemination among those who care to talk about orienteering.
It is not a substitute for the Formline as a means to reach all members.

Well anyway, that should be enough to launch a free-wheeling discussion!
What do the rest of you think?

--Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon [mailto:djon@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 2:40 PM
To: Quantico_Orienteering_Club@...
Subject: [Quantico_Orienteering_Club] QOC - group update, the second,
and other matters


As of this writing, the group has 355 members, give or take one or
two, of whom 10 receive all posts as individual emails, two receive
all posts in a daily digest and the remainder receive only Special
Notices (i.e. routine announcements as exemplified by the past
traffic on our email distribution list). The group is therefore not
yet much of a medium for discussion amongst the membership at large.

I note with interest that certain parties have demonstrated that it
is possible to change delivery options without linking their
subscription to a Yahoo ID. On the general topic of use of the
group, reactions suggest I outlined the characteristics of the group
somewhat too abruptly. I promise to produce something more
considered in the not too distant future, that is to say, after
Wheaton.

That said we have a couple of other things to annnounce...


From our Publicity Director

"As you think about heading to Hemlock Overlook Park this weekend
(ed. so I'm not distributing this terribly promptly), keep in mind
that on Oct. 6 the 3rd Annual VentureQuest Adventure Race will take
place there, and orienteering is definitely part of that race!

Concerning the race, the Director, Jim Harman, sent us the following
just this morning:

**********
There are still a few team slots available for the third annual
VentureQuest, Northern Virginia's Premier Adventure Race hosted by
Hemlock Overlook Center for Outdoor Education. Teams of three
compete in this 4-8 hour sprint adventure race. Elements include 12
miles of biking, 14 miles of trail running, 3 miles of canoeing, and
several additional team challenges such as orienteering, a tyrolean
traverse, a log carry, obstacles, and and other physically and
mentally intense team challenges. Register soon for this very
popular event!

For more details visit, http://hemlock.gmu.edu/ and click on
VentureQuest or call (703) 993-9830.

***********

On a separate note, VentureQuest would love to find volunteers to
help out with their race, so if you're not quite ready to race this
year, you can still get familiar with the event by becoming one of
the 200+ volunteers that they need to pull off an event of this size.
You can also ask to be assigned to the orienteering section if you
wish. Contact VQ via the web address or telephone number listed
above, and say QOC sent you!


And from Van Anthony

"A watch was left behind at registration at Hemlock. It is
travelling with the Virginia meet kit. Next time the owner goes to a
Virginia meet, he should claim it. The sooner the better. The owner
also can contact me at (703) 931-4808 or vananthony@...
before October 13. I'll have the kit until then.

Van"

Jon Torrance
djon@...




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QOC - group update, the second, and other matters

Jon <djon@...>
 

As of this writing, the group has 355 members, give or take one or
two, of whom 10 receive all posts as individual emails, two receive
all posts in a daily digest and the remainder receive only Special
Notices (i.e. routine announcements as exemplified by the past
traffic on our email distribution list). The group is therefore not
yet much of a medium for discussion amongst the membership at large.

I note with interest that certain parties have demonstrated that it
is possible to change delivery options without linking their
subscription to a Yahoo ID. On the general topic of use of the
group, reactions suggest I outlined the characteristics of the group
somewhat too abruptly. I promise to produce something more
considered in the not too distant future, that is to say, after
Wheaton.

That said we have a couple of other things to annnounce...


From our Publicity Director

"As you think about heading to Hemlock Overlook Park this weekend
(ed. so I'm not distributing this terribly promptly), keep in mind
that on Oct. 6 the 3rd Annual VentureQuest Adventure Race will take
place there, and orienteering is definitely part of that race!

Concerning the race, the Director, Jim Harman, sent us the following
just this morning:

**********
There are still a few team slots available for the third annual
VentureQuest, Northern Virginia's Premier Adventure Race hosted by
Hemlock Overlook Center for Outdoor Education. Teams of three
compete in this 4-8 hour sprint adventure race. Elements include 12
miles of biking, 14 miles of trail running, 3 miles of canoeing, and
several additional team challenges such as orienteering, a tyrolean
traverse, a log carry, obstacles, and and other physically and
mentally intense team challenges. Register soon for this very
popular event!

For more details visit, http://hemlock.gmu.edu/ and click on
VentureQuest or call (703) 993-9830.

***********

On a separate note, VentureQuest would love to find volunteers to
help out with their race, so if you're not quite ready to race this
year, you can still get familiar with the event by becoming one of
the 200+ volunteers that they need to pull off an event of this size.
You can also ask to be assigned to the orienteering section if you
wish. Contact VQ via the web address or telephone number listed
above, and say QOC sent you!


And from Van Anthony

"A watch was left behind at registration at Hemlock. It is
travelling with the Virginia meet kit. Next time the owner goes to a
Virginia meet, he should claim it. The sooner the better. The owner
also can contact me at (703) 931-4808 or vananthony@...
before October 13. I'll have the kit until then.

Van"

Jon Torrance
djon@...


Re: Now that we're all here...

Van Anthony <vananthony@...>
 

Jon,

Re delivery options. Do I set these (if so, how) or do you. If it's
you, I'd like all messages, and I'll take them unbundled.

Could I ask you to send out a system message. A watch was left behind
at registration at Fountainhead. It is travelling with the Virginia meet
kit. Next time the owner goes to a Virginia meet, he should claim it. The
sooner the better. The owner also can contact me at (703) 931-4808 or
vananthony@... before October 13. I'll have the kit until
then.

Van

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon <djon@...>
To: Quantico_Orienteering_Club@...
<Quantico_Orienteering_Club@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:47 PM
Subject: [Quantico_Orienteering_Club] Now that we're all here...


Yes, everyone is now transferred from the email list (an assertion I'll
check when time permits). So it's time for a few explanations for those of
you who may be new to Yahoo groups.

You have four delivery options. You may receive every message posted
individually, a daily digest of messages, only Special Notices
(announcements from QOC) or no email at all. You are almost all currently
receiving only Special Notices which means the group is functionally
equivalent to QOC's existing email list with the dubious added benefit of
advertising from Yahoo. The few of you who have already linked their
subscription generally opted to receive individual emails (I noted one
exception) and I have tried to respect that. No email is effectively
equivalent to not subscribing with the big difference that you can post
messages. Bottom line - if you don't like the setting you have, change it.
If you experience technical difficulties, contact me and I'll change it for
you.

Regarding privacy, the message archive is viewable by anyone. Messages are
supposed to contain the sender's email address truncated at the first letter
after "@" and this appears to work but the system is obviously not quite as
anonymous as the email list. On the other hand, the potential exists for
this to be a discussion forum as well as a means to promulgate announcements
and messages to date seem to indicate there is some pent-up demand. Perhaps
I'll post occasional updates on how many people are choosing to receive
email other than Special Notices.

Which reminds me of something I'm sure some of you have noticed - I propose
to post that information since none of you can view the list of members.
Privacy concerns again. It is supposed to be possible to hide one's email
address but it appears to be necessary to create a Yahoo ID first and
nothing like all of us have done so yet. A pity - perhaps we ought to use
the database feature to build an email and/or phone directory for those
members who wish to be included. Or perhaps I'm excessively concerned about
privacy. Something to work out in the coming weeks.

Which again reminds me, if anyone out there has been running a dozen Yahoo
groups since forever and knows a better way to do something in here, please
speak up. Less battle-tested suggestions are also welcome. Have fun at
Hemlock, and I'll see may of you at Wheaton.

Jon Torrance
djon@...






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Night-O Questions

Bernie Beall <BBBeall@...>
 

A QOC member has raised some good questions for
someone who has never done a Night-O before.

Let's call this Night-O FAQs for all...

1. Is it something I can do alone?
YES, IT'S JUST LIKE A DAY-O, EXCEPT DARK.
SOLO OR IN GROUPS IS JUST FINE. :-)

2. Do people use a flashlight?
A GOOD FLASHLIGHT IS DEFINITELY CRUCIAL!
THE CONTROLS HAVE A REFLECTOR ADDED.

3. Are the points closer together? Are the points
in the middle of the woods or closer to trails?
ONLY WHITE, YELLOW, ORANGE AND GREEN COURSES WILL BE
AVAILABLE FOR THE NIGHT-O, SO NO LONG ADVANCED COURSES.

4. Is it an all night event?
STARTS ARE FROM 8:00-9:30pm, WITH FINISH BY 11:00pm.
(FYI, sunset is 7:22 and civil twilight 7:48.)

Hope to see you this Saturday night, September 14 at Hemlock Overlook Park!
For this Sunday, the starts are from Noon to 2pm, with finish by 4:00pm.

Bernie Beall
Meet Director
BBBeall@...
(cell) 703-577-0351
----------------------------------------------------------


Wheaton volunteers needed on 9/22

John Firebaugh Jr.
 

I thought I might try this to ask for help at Wheaton on 9/22.
All times are open! Let me know when you are running and I will set
you up.
Please respond here or by calling me at home 410-551-8537. Thanks
for your help, John Firebaugh.


Group update

Jon <djon@...>
 

I hereby announce that I've just given Tom Strat and Greg Lennon
moderator status, thereby relieving myself of any absolute obligation
to check my email and the group over this dial-up connection while
I'm out of town just in case someone needs a message broadcast to the
club. I also draw your attention to the Night-O FAQ Bernie Beall
posted and Vladimir Diachkov's renewed need for a ride (see the two
previous entries in the message archive.

Back to brewing Wheaton courses. See people there.

Jon Torrance


Night-O Questions

Bernie Beall <BBBeall@...>
 

A QOC member has raised some good questions for
someone who has never done a Night-O before.

Let's call this Night-O FAQs for all...

1. Is it something I can do alone?
YES, IT'S JUST LIKE A DAY-O, EXCEPT DARK.
SOLO OR IN GROUPS IS JUST FINE. :-)

2. Do people use a flashlight?
A GOOD FLASHLIGHT IS DEFINITELY CRUCIAL!
THE CONTROLS HAVE A REFLECTOR ADDED.

3. Are the points closer together? Are the points
in the middle of the woods or closer to trails?
ONLY WHITE, YELLOW, ORANGE AND GREEN COURSES WILL BE
AVAILABLE FOR THE NIGHT-O, SO NO LONG ADVANCED COURSES.

4. Is it an all night event?
STARTS ARE FROM 8:00-9:30pm, WITH FINISH BY 11:00pm.
(FYI, sunset is 7:22 and civil twilight 7:48.)

Hope to see you this Saturday night, September 14 at Hemlock Overlook Park!
For this Sunday, the starts are from Noon to 2pm, with finish by 4:00pm.

Bernie Beall
Meet Director
BBBeall@...
(cell) 703-577-0351
----------------------------------------------------------


Ride to Hemlock Sunday

VMeyer9085
 

Vlad Dyachkov (Russian 20 year old) is looking for a ride to Hemlock on
Sunday. I wasn't sure if I was going to attend, and now I know I am not
going... He lives by King Street and 395 by Copeland's. Can anyone help
out?

His number is (703) 578-1546.

Please let me know if you contact him. Thanks.

Valerie Meyer


Now that we're all here...

Jon <djon@...>
 

Yes, everyone is now transferred from the email list (an assertion I'll check when time permits). So it's time for a few explanations for those of you who may be new to Yahoo groups.

You have four delivery options. You may receive every message posted individually, a daily digest of messages, only Special Notices (announcements from QOC) or no email at all. You are almost all currently receiving only Special Notices which means the group is functionally equivalent to QOC's existing email list with the dubious added benefit of advertising from Yahoo. The few of you who have already linked their subscription generally opted to receive individual emails (I noted one exception) and I have tried to respect that. No email is effectively equivalent to not subscribing with the big difference that you can post messages. Bottom line - if you don't like the setting you have, change it. If you experience technical difficulties, contact me and I'll change it for you.

Regarding privacy, the message archive is viewable by anyone. Messages are supposed to contain the sender's email address truncated at the first letter after "@" and this appears to work but the system is obviously not quite as anonymous as the email list. On the other hand, the potential exists for this to be a discussion forum as well as a means to promulgate announcements and messages to date seem to indicate there is some pent-up demand. Perhaps I'll post occasional updates on how many people are choosing to receive email other than Special Notices.

Which reminds me of something I'm sure some of you have noticed - I propose to post that information since none of you can view the list of members. Privacy concerns again. It is supposed to be possible to hide one's email address but it appears to be necessary to create a Yahoo ID first and nothing like all of us have done so yet. A pity - perhaps we ought to use the database feature to build an email and/or phone directory for those members who wish to be included. Or perhaps I'm excessively concerned about privacy. Something to work out in the coming weeks.

Which again reminds me, if anyone out there has been running a dozen Yahoo groups since forever and knows a better way to do something in here, please speak up. Less battle-tested suggestions are also welcome. Have fun at Hemlock, and I'll see may of you at Wheaton.

Jon Torrance
djon@...


Benefits of USOF membership

Jon Torrance <jet@...>
 

Sorry, George, but we're still in the transitional mode, i.e. I think
I'm the only person who will have received your most recent message by
email. Though it will appear in the message list for anyone who
actually visits the group online.

To answer your question, as far as I can tell the benefits of USOF
membership are discounts at A events generally, a subscription to
Orienteering - North America and the warm, fuzzy feeling that results
from having fractionally increased QOC's voting weight in USOF.

Jon


Re: US Championships

GF <gford@...>
 

As I replyed to Fred, I won't be running as high as Red so it
probably doesn't matter. I should become a member, but I can't find
out what the 25.00 fee buys.


Re: US Championships

GF <gford@...>
 

Thanks, Fred. More than likely I'll be running Brown (less likely
green, which I'll have no chance winning, yet ;) )

See you soon. George


Re: US Championships

pdickison@...
 

The only thing eligibility gets you is the opportunity to win a US
Championship medal. Nothing more, nothing less. If you are a US citizen or
green card holder (and I'm sure you are), then there's absolutely no reason
to say you're not eligible. It's not like we charge you more.
ps -- no medals on the open courses, so it's irrelevant there.
Peggy D
Day 1 course setter

ps #2 -- USOF membership is different from championship eligibility, and for
that you get a discount on the entry fee. That's worth it!


Re: US Championships

Fred Ayres <qocfred@...>
 

Hi George,
USOF membership will get you a $3 per day discount on competition
fees. In addition there will be US Champions crowned in every age
group and the first three USOF-eligible will receive medals. If you
are running in an open class, say MOrange or Mbrown, it will not do
much other than save on the fees. QOC will also be awarding medals to
the top 3 in every class, whether USOF-eligible or not. For the
elites running in M21+ or F21+ the USOF winners will also receive
monetary grants to be used for team competition.

Fred Ayres

----- Original Message -----
From: "GF" <gford@...>
To: <Quantico_Orienteering_Club@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: [Quantico_Orienteering_Club] US Championships


What would I be missing if I register as "not eligible" for the
Championships. In others words what will USOF membership do for me
in the meet? Thanks George


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US Championships

GF <gford@...>
 

What would I be missing if I register as "not eligible" for the
Championships. In others words what will USOF membership do for me
in the meet? Thanks George


Addendum

Jon <djon@...>
 

I just reset everyone to receive only Special Notices - hopefully it will take now that I noticed that "Save Changes" button. My apologies if you had set it to individual emails yourself but I'm claiming dictatorial powers until I think I've got this thing set up properly. Feel free to set up a new or link to an existing Yahoo ID - I won't mess with that - but plenty of other settings are up for grabs.

Jon Torrance
djon@...